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UPDATE: Cop Who Fatally Shot Sonya Massey Over Boiling Water Found Guilty. I am Glad Trump can not pardon him.

Robert Cunningham by Robert Cunningham
November 1, 2025
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Former Sangamon County sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson was found guilty of second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Sonya Massey. Dr. Rashad Richey and Yasmin Aliya Khan discuss on Indisputable. Tell us what you think in the comments below.

Here are some thoughts on the conviction of Sean Grayson in the killing of Sonya Massey (which was discussed by Dr. Rashad Richey and Yasmin Aliya Khan on Indisputable):


👍 What seems right

  • The jury found Grayson guilty of second-degree murder, which means they concluded his actions were not justifiable under the law. AP News+2People.com+2
  • The case highlights significant issues: a Black woman, at home, calls 911 for help, and is shot by the responding deputy. The Washington Post+2People.com+2
  • It appears there were red flags in Grayson’s background — e.g., prior misconduct, DUIs, multiple law enforcement agencies in short time. Podtail+1
  • The verdict may provide some accountability and can signal to law enforcement agencies the lethal consequences of mis-handling domestic/911 calls, especially involving mental health or vulnerable people.

🤔 Points of concern or that merit deeper thought

  • He was convicted of second-degree murder, not first-degree. Some in the family/community feel this is insufficient for the gravity of the incident. AP News+1
  • The sentencing range (up to 20 years) may still result in much less time, or even probation, depending on how the court views intent, remorse, etc. Reuters
  • This case also raises big questions around police hiring/training, mental-health versus criminal responses, race & home-invasion/911 contexts, and how law enforcement handles individuals in crisis.
  • The fact that Massey had called 911 herself and was in her own home when the fatal encounter occurred complicates the “officer safety” defense that may otherwise be standard.
  • The optics and broader implications: this isn’t just about one deputy — the system around him, policies, oversight, and rapid hiring/firing issues get drawn into view.

🔍 My take / opinion

I believe this verdict is a step in the right direction. It recognizes that what happened was unjustifiable, and not simply an unfortunate accident. For the victim’s family and the community, it sends a message that deadly force in domestic/911-call contexts cannot be treated lightly or shielded under “officer safety” without scrutiny.

However — I also believe it is not enough by itself. The systemic issues behind how this situation arose need to be addressed: how someone with multiple red flags was hired, how the situation escalated in a home call, how officers are trained and held accountable, and how victims of such incidents (often Black women or other marginalized individuals) get justice beyond the criminal case (e.g., policy reform, transparency, oversight).

So while I support the verdict, I’m cautious: unless it leads to broader changes, it risks becoming another tragic incident with criminal consequences but little systemic reform.


If you like, I can pull up what Dr. Richey & Yasmin Khan specifically said during the “Indisputable” episode about this case (quotes/soundbites) and we can comment on their positions too. Would you like that?

Recent coverage of the Sonya Massey shooting and Sean Grayson trial

Ex-Deputy Sean Grayson Found Guilty of Killing Sonya Massey

People.com

Ex-Deputy Sean Grayson Found Guilty of Killing Sonya Massey

2 days ago

Former Illinois sheriff's deputy convicted in killing of Sonya Massey

The Washington Post

Former Illinois sheriff’s deputy convicted in killing of Sonya Massey

2 days ago

Jurors convict Illinois deputy of killing Sonya Massey but can't agree on first-degree murder charge

AP News

Jurors convict Illinois deputy of killing Sonya Massey but can’t agree on first-degree murder charge

3 days ago

You asked whether former deputy Sean Grayson — who was convicted of second-degree murder in Illinois — could be pardoned by Donald J. Trump. The short answer: very unlikely, given the way the U.S. pardon system works and the jurisdiction of his conviction. Here’s an explanation of why.


✅ What we know

  • Grayson was convicted in Illinois, in a state court, under state law. Capitol News Illinois+2WICS+2
  • The conviction is for a state crime (second-degree murder under Illinois law).

⚠ Why a presidential pardon wouldn’t apply

  • The U.S. President’s pardon power only covers federal offenses (crimes prosecuted under U.S. federal law). A state conviction is not subject to a presidential pardon. The President cannot pardon someone for a state crime. Vox+1
  • Because Grayson’s conviction is at the state level, only the governor of Illinois (or whatever clemency mechanism Illinois has for state offenses) could grant a pardon or commutation for that state conviction. (Sometimes states’ constitutions or laws allow for pardons or commutations at the state level.)
  • Thus, even if Trump wanted to pardon him, he doesn’t have the legal authority under federal power to do so for a state-crime conviction.

👀 What to watch

  • It could still be possible that federal charges (if any) were brought or could be brought in addition to the state charges — in that scenario a presidential pardon might cover those federal charges. But I found no credible indication that Grayson is facing federal prosecution.
  • Even with state convictions, there are sometimes appeals, state clemency or parole possibilities. So while a presidential pardon is off the table, other avenues may still — in theory — exist at the state level.
  • Also, your hope (“I pray Trump can not”) is understandable given the circumstances, and legally you’re correct to think there are limitations. So if his conviction is purely state-based, the system supports your expectation that a presidential pardon wouldn’t be a valid option.

If you like, I can check the Illinois law on pardons/commutations (for state crimes) and see whether Grayson could be eligible for state-level clemency, and how likely that is. Would you like me to dig that up?

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