Luke discusses a farmer at risk of losing his farm because of the new administration.
we continue following the folks who
0:02voted for Trump but are sort of
0:05learning what it is that they voted for
0:08now that Trump’s actually doing it and
0:10terrible
0:12examples but a more hopeful ending to
0:15this story because I thought there was a
0:18follow-up video made on a story that
0:20went really viral and the story was
0:22about a
0:23farmer and then a different farmer who
0:26is not a supporter of trump made a video
0:28and and sort of articulate it more than
0:31just F around and find out right that
0:33being the response from a lot of people
0:34and I I understand it but but hey
0:38here’s what the takeaway should should
0:41be from the fact that Trump might be
0:42destroying your life right this should
0:43be the takeaway and it’s not
0:45just I I have something more to to give
0:48you and that’s what this farmer did that
0:50you were seeing on screen a second ago
0:52so before getting to the liberal Farmers
0:54response I’ll show you the individual
0:57who voted for Trump and had his story go
0:59viral about how given a trump
1:02Administration policy he could lose his
1:04farm and he was benefiting from a
1:07program that was a part of the inflation
1:09reduction act a Biden policy and yes you
1:12have the feeling what this is I don’t
1:15want you to lose your farm why are you
1:17doing this and some people would say
1:19yeah get the negative impact but as we
1:22conjure as much sympathy as possible
1:24it’s more so at least please have the
1:27proper takeaway and I hope you don’t Le
1:30your
1:31farm click the Subscribe button if you
1:33appreciate these videos first this then
1:36we’ll get to the response I might lose
1:38my farm because of the government I got
1:40in bed with the government I was
1:41promoting getting in bed with the
1:42government because I thought it was a
1:43good idea
1:46so nrcf so already we’re off to the
1:49wrong start eventually he does
1:50acknowledge that it was the inflation
1:51reduction act but it’s not that you got
1:55in bed with the
1:56government it’s that you got in bed with
2:00a perfectly fine woman okay here’s the
2:04analogy and you’re having a good
2:07time and then for some reason you
2:11say I want no you push that woman out of
2:14the
2:15bed and then you go over to
2:20your your leopard cage and you get a
2:23leopard and you say now I’m bringing
2:25this to bed and you start trying to do
2:26the same things with the leopard that
2:27you were doing with the woman and then
2:29it you that’s the it’s not that you got
2:32in bed with the government it’s that we
2:33put someone else in charge of the
2:35government not that Biden’s a beautiful
2:37woman in this analogy I’m just saying
2:39you get the point yes conservation
2:41planning so they had a program out there
2:43called the equip program and what the
2:45equip program is is it’s cost sharing on
2:48stuff like fencing different seatings uh
2:51water lines Waters Wells and stuff like
2:54that to better conserve farmland for
2:57agricultural use so and with that being
3:00said they called me today and said hey I
3:03know we have this signed contract we’re
3:05reing on it we’re not going to pay out
3:07on it what do you mean you’re not going
3:10to pay out on it so I’ve got all this
3:11stuff bought and whenever I install it
3:13you’re not going to pay out we had this
3:15contract I made business decisions based
3:17on this contract I might lose my farm
3:20because of the government right so that
3:21kind of gives you a quick it was longer
3:23video but he engaged an agreement I
3:27agree with the uplifting of our farmers
3:31and he took advantage of it I’m happy
3:32for him but it was a Biden era policy
3:36that then the Trump Administration is
3:38saying we’re not going to make good on
3:40he then did a follow-up video I need
3:43your help to save my farm and many other
3:45Farms want to give you guys and I just I
3:47just need to say something this is not
3:49relevant for our podcast listeners but I
3:51just went and found the first video of
3:54him doing this followup the Trump
3:56dancing in the corner which was clearly
3:58someone doing a little mockery I think
4:01um is not something that I am that I did
4:04I didn’t do that give you guys an update
4:06on what we figured out with our
4:08contractor nrcs so to give you some
4:09backstory if you haven’t watched the
4:11previous video please go out watch that
4:13previous video I’ve got on there we are
4:15possibly going to lose our farm if nrcs
4:18doesn’t hold up their contract with us
4:20on the equip program so the reason that
4:23they’re not able to hold up the contract
4:25is is our equip program which is cost
4:28sharing on fenes Waters a well and some
4:31seedings was funded by the inflation
4:33reduction act because of the executive
4:35orders there is a pause or a freeze on
4:38the funding through the inflation
4:40reduction act and they’re not able to
4:42pay out on the stuff that we completed
4:44or anything going forward but the issue
4:46I have is is I’ve already paid I’ve
4:48already done a bunch of the work already
4:49paid for the material already paid for
4:51the labor so I’m out all that cost and I
4:53use my farm operating expenses in order
4:56to do those projects because per
4:58contract I knew that I was going to get
5:00C sharing refunds on the stuff once
5:02completed but now that it’s completed
5:04they’re saying that they’re unable to
5:06provide the funds because of the freeze
5:09on the inflation reduction act funds so
5:12I reached out to a couple different uh
5:14senators and Congress people so I
5:16reached out to an Wagner’s office I have
5:17not and he goes on to the actions he’s
5:19trying to take to make this right but
5:22it’s not he’s repres he should do that
5:25to put pressure on particularly
5:27Republicans to put pressure on Trump but
5:29it’s not Congress this is the point and
5:33then I’ll show you the beautiful message
5:36from a different
5:38farmer this is the point of why the
5:42executive branch is not supposed to be
5:44able to
5:46just not implement the policies that
5:49were signed into law and that were
5:51passed by Congress that’s that’s what we
5:56say
5:58say what
6:01uh that’s the problem because then you
6:04have things that are in law being
6:06violated just because a new president
6:08came in town and said I have unilateral
6:11control over law now when that’s not
6:15that’s not how it’s supposed to go the
6:18power of the purse is supposed to be
6:19with Congress the president then signs
6:21off on these laws and then they’re
6:23enforced even if the new president
6:25doesn’t like them in this case that
6:27means he should have his contract
6:31upheld
6:33and it’s heartbreaking people didn’t see
6:35that the only my main
6:37criticism I haven’t watched all of his
6:39content content but from what I’ve seen
6:41so far you got to say the names the
6:44whole the inflation reduction Act and
6:47the the pause on
6:51who
6:53Biden then Trump there’s a there’s a
6:57really important takeaway there all
6:58right but not just F around and find out
7:02as you’ll hear um this gentleman say and
7:05actually throw that down for a second
7:06Jaden let’s get so that we can Will
7:10westerland is the name of the gentleman
7:12you’re going to see responding and my
7:14goodness could you get a better name for
7:17a farmer than and I say this with all
7:20the respect will
7:24Westmorland is that a stage
7:27name also everybody says in the comments
7:29project 2025 didn’t you read that that’s
7:31his platform hey Skylar my name is Will
7:33West Morland and I’m a farmer down in
7:35Southwest Missouri and I just westm
7:40land sorry we’ll talk about I’m not done
7:43with talking about that name that’s
7:44brilliant I’m I love that just wanted to
7:46reach out to you and tell you that I am
7:48not an ffo kind of guy we probably
7:51disagree with each other on everything
7:53political but there’s a very specific
7:55reason why people are getting upset with
7:57you and I wanted to explain that to you
7:59if you’d be willing to listen to an
8:01older guy kind of walk you through the
8:02process now I’m not an ffo guy because I
8:06know what’s going to happen to poor
8:09people the elderly children single
8:12moms and over 250 million people every
8:15night around the world that go to bed
8:17hungry and f a foo if you’re not
8:20familiar is f around and find out and
8:22it’s what people say when they’re saying
8:24well you you voted for this you deserve
8:25it if the American Farmer and Rancher is
8:28run out of business because of Trump’s
8:31policies and that’s what I want to
8:32explain to you tonight if you’ll listen
8:34to me I also wanted to let you know I
8:36sent you a private message and if you
8:38ever want to get on the phone and you
8:39want to talk about the issues that Trump
8:42is forwarding that are bad for
8:44agriculture I’d be willing to do that
8:46and I’d be willing to listen to your
8:47arguments as
8:49well I also want to let you know that
8:51I’ve been a political consultant for
8:53over 30 years I Want to Be Right upfront
8:55about that I do that in addition to
8:57farming and I want you to know a lot of
9:00younger people don’t know and I don’t
9:01mean that in a condescending way but
9:03more of an educational way a lot of
9:06younger people don’t know that rightwing
9:09talk radio and news the pundits the
9:12talking heads and right-wing talk radio
9:14Etc have been working for over 40 years
9:19to develop in rural
9:21people exactly the kinds of ideas that
9:24you have in your head that all
9:25politicians are Crooks that they’re all
9:27the same that you can’t Trad can’t trust
9:30traditional media that anything you hear
9:33that comes out of Washington DC or New
9:35York or the New York Times or CBS news
9:38that it’s all a lie and they did this on
9:41purpose and they started with Ronald
9:42Reagan we used to have what’s called a
9:44fairness Doctrine in this country where
9:46if you were a a radio station or a
9:49television station and you were using
9:51the public Airwaves to present a message
9:54we had a fairness Doctrine where you
9:55were required by law to share the other
9:57side of the story
10:00and President Ronald Reagan and I hope
10:01it’s okay I’m going to play more of this
10:03than I normally play of Clips all at
10:05once just because I
10:07think you’ve heard enough of my stupid
10:09voice
10:11okay Beasley that’s my last name Beasley
10:15you need to hear it from
10:16westerland who was president when I was
10:18in high school and a little bit younger
10:20than that had the fairness Doctrine
10:22eliminated he had it taken out of the
10:24books and there was a specific reason
10:26for that it was designed so that
10:28organizations like Fox News and
10:30right-wing talk radio could start
10:33spreading the lie that all mainstream
10:35media was bad now this was during the
10:38time of Walter kronite and Dan Rather
10:40all the other news heads that we had out
10:43there that were highly respected but it
10:45was a strategy to make it so that the
10:47airwaves no longer had to present an
10:49unbiased case and then these right-wing
10:51media sources like rush limau and Fox
10:54News Etc began pouring it on to Rural
10:57America you can’t trust politicians you
11:00can’t trust the news and what they did
11:03is they focused on destroying the trust
11:05in these institutions so that they could
11:08replace it with another institution and
11:10they did that they replaced it with Fox
11:12News they replaced it with right-wing
11:14talk radio and I can’t tell you how many
11:16times when I was growing up when I was
11:18your age I’d walk into a job site or be
11:21on a farm and I would hear right-wing
11:23talk radio blaring on the radio all day
11:26long and then after they had destroyed
11:28our faith in media institutions in Rural
11:31America they then turn their guns toward
11:33the government itself and they began
11:36building in us a distrust of government
11:38organizations and Skylar here’s the
11:40facts okay I’m you can look this up on
11:43your own but these are the facts Rural
11:45America uses more welfare than the blue
11:48cities
11:49do Rural America needs more help feeding
11:52our children we need more help keeping
11:54our hospitals
11:56open and guys like you and I Farmers out
11:58there that grow roow crops or do AGR
12:00forestry or raise
12:02cattle we take welfare
12:05too now I don’t think there’s anything
12:07wrong with that because we can’t control
12:09the cost of our inputs we can’t control
12:11the cost of what we sell our products
12:13for we got to pay for shipping both ways
12:16as Kennedy said but the reality of the
12:19situation is they were able to instill
12:21in us the idea that the government money
12:24coming to us was okay and was a good
12:26thing but the government money going
12:28every where else was a scam or a sham or
12:32communistic or socialistic
12:35Etc so it reached a fever pitch finally
12:38where a lot of rural people over 70% of
12:41rural farmers and ranchers only believe
12:44the fox newses and the talk
12:46radio and when they came to you and told
12:48you that Trump wasn’t going to implement
12:50project 2025 and that he didn’t have
12:53anything to do with it you believe that
12:55and you’re not
12:57alone all I’m here to tell you is that
12:59you were lied to I’m not asking you to
13:01admit you were wrong I’m not telling you
13:03you effed around and found out because I
13:05don’t want to see you lose your farm and
13:07if there’s anything I can do to help you
13:08not lose your farm I’d be happy to do
13:11it but in the distrust that you built up
13:14for government over time and due to the
13:17fact that you didn’t think mainstream
13:18media was reliable anymore and you began
13:21listening to the news sources that tried
13:23to convince you every day that project
13:262025 was not a trump deal even though
13:29many many people on his campaign worked
13:31for project 2025 they put it together
13:34they helped write it there was an entire
13:36section on
13:38agriculture and in that section on
13:40agriculture they specifically say
13:42they’re going to cut out programs like
13:44this then they’re going to cut out crop
13:47insurance and Donald Trump is on record
13:50my friend and Skylar look this up don’t
13:52take anything I’m telling you at face
13:54value you look it up that’s the
13:56difference between me and a lot of
13:57people on here check what I’ve said yes
14:00and I’ll stop it there because that’s
14:02the point that I want to segue off of
14:03which is so brilliant again credit to
14:06will West merland and this is the type
14:11of dialogue we need too
14:14because he’s not
14:16saying oh um maybe we can both maybe we
14:21can both pretend like we don’t have
14:23disagreements it’s not about we all link
14:26arms and we sing it’s acknowledg in that
14:30just like we do with systemic
14:35failures systemic failures
14:39economically and we look at how while of
14:42course the personal advice to someone is
14:44always going to be work hard right part
14:47individually just work hard pull
14:49yourself out by your
14:51bootstraps is not a comprehensive policy
14:54suggestion that would address the
14:57systemic problems it’s actually similar
15:00with systemic failures in media literacy
15:05which is that yes on an individual level
15:08I’m going to say y sometimes right to a
15:12to a Maga uh person I’ll I’ll condemn
15:16them I’ll debate with them sometimes be
15:19really upset with them identify where
15:21sometimes I think hate is motivating
15:22things but that doesn’t mean that we
15:24detach from understanding there is a
15:26systemic problem there and he explained
15:29a part of
15:31it and how there’s this long longer than
15:35the the uh First Farmer that you saw
15:39longer than he’s been alive an effort to
15:43create a bubble that people then are so
15:47trapped in from
15:50birth that
15:52while we while we don’t accept it we
15:58understand you get how that is going to
16:00make it really difficult to just
16:01completely detach and and understand
16:03where sort of the lies are coming from
16:05and it’s not to say there aren’t huge
16:06criticisms of mainstream Media or huge
16:10criticism and skepticism we need to have
16:11of the government it’s exactly what he
16:14said which is with
16:16me I don’t think I’m your only source of
16:20truth will doesn’t think he’s the only
16:23source of
16:24Truth and we should promote the idea
16:29that or we should promote the critical
16:32thinking skills necessary
16:34to verify if someone’s telling you the
16:37truth and then you do develop a level of
16:39trust with them but in that instead
16:45of an environment of everyone’s lying to
16:48you except for me which is often the
16:50right-wing message it’s definitely the
16:51Trump
16:53message if you’re not exactly in line
16:55with this message you must be a part of
16:57the the bad
17:00liberal fake
17:02news and once you can cultivate and it
17:05was decades long to do that that
17:08environment it makes it very difficult
17:10for people to correctly
17:13identify what the truth is there is a
17:16culty component to it it started before
17:19anyone knew Trump was going to really
17:22maximize it was really going to take
17:24advantage of
17:25it but then he really ended up showing
17:29us how dangerous it can
17:32be and so our job has to be not just to
17:36go ha you’re
17:39wrong or you voted for this even though
17:42it’s fine to say are you identifying you
17:44voted for this cuz hopefully you can
17:46identify that then we could understand
17:48what the takeaway should
17:50be and it’s not to say there aren’t huge
17:53systemic failures with the Democratic
17:54party but the unique Detachment from
17:58reality bubble component of the modern
18:01Maga
18:03movement was explained very well in part
18:06there by
18:08Will and it serves as as a daily
18:12reminder of why we all have to make sure
18:14we’re not getting
18:15into culty tribal
18:20thinking and hopefully through
18:23conversations like this by using a
18:25specific example over the next few years
18:27as people are going to in end up being
18:29hurt by Trump’s policies not just going
18:32but having them identify where the
18:35Pain’s coming from that’s important why
18:37it’s
18:37happening it’s not just the inflation
18:39reduction who signed the inflation
18:41reduction Che who’s not following
18:42through in that law getting that and
18:45then walking through how at least they
18:48could concede the sources of information
18:51they were going to before that told them
18:53this is the ultimate source of Truth it
18:55that that’s not the case maybe there’s
18:57still a journey to figure out where they
18:58can find Reliable information and how to
19:00verify it that’s a longer step but step
19:04one is just realizing they’ve been lied
19:08to and I think will westerland explained
19:12that nicely share your thoughts in the
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